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Posted by Batroc on July 15, 1997 at 05:35:46 PDT
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Posted by Batroc on July 15, 1997 at 05:39:28 PDT
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Posted by Patriot on July 15, 1997 at 06:19:35 PDT
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Posted by Steven O'Connell on July 15, 1997 at 10:05:34 PDT
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Posted by Steven O'Connell on July 15, 1997 at 10:07:15 PDT
> > Anyone interested in seeing these characters again? Maybe all new looks and such? Let me know...
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Posted by TJ Burns on July 15, 1997 at 11:15:13 PDT
> > > > Anyone interested in seeing these characters again? > Maybe all new looks and such? > Let me know... > You bet I would! They were all in that Invaders miniseries from a few years ago as well, BTW. If the LL was to reunite, let's add the Blazing Skull and the Original Vision to their ranks. TJB Host = peopl26.mis.NET (206.28.33.126) |
Posted by Patriot on July 15, 1997 at 11:48:28 PDT
> > Anyone interested in seeing these characters again? > > Maybe all new looks and such? > > Let me know... > > > You bet I would! They were all in that Invaders miniseries from a few years ago as well, BTW. If the LL was to reunite, let's add the Blazing Skull and the Original Vision to their ranks. > TJB I think it would be cool if Cap inspired a new LL in the Nineties. They could have some of the old names and new names as well. I think if you wanted to use the old characters, they should be in their WW II period. Patriot. Host = blackhole.miti.nb.ca (198.73.125.2) |
Posted by Batroc on July 15, 1997 at 14:29:36 PDT
>>> Cap historian Rob and I are going to try to be in the chat room tonight at 12:00 EST. We would like for you to check it out so we can get your perceptions on Cap and the fate of the universe, etc. You're interests in comics seem to be similar to ours i.e. silver age background, good back issue collection, thought you might want to join us in discussing various esoteric subjects. Host = ten1.ten.k12.tn.us (206.23.236.1) |
Posted by TJ Burns on July 15, 1997 at 15:22:56 PDT
> > > > Anyone interested in seeing these characters again? > > > Maybe all new looks and such? > > > Let me know... > > > > > You bet I would! They were all in that Invaders miniseries from a few years ago as well, BTW. If the LL was to reunite, let's add the Blazing Skull and the Original Vision to their ranks. > > TJB > I think it would be cool if Cap inspired a new LL in the Nineties. They could have some of the old names and new names as well. I think if you wanted to use the old characters, they should be in their WW II period. > Patriot. I've done the same with a few of them too. Too bad Marvel won't. TJB Host = peopl13.mis.NET (206.28.33.113) |
Posted by Patriot on July 15, 1997 at 16:29:43 PDT
Thanks for the invite. I'll be there at Midnight. What room do you go to? Private?
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Posted by Rob on July 15, 1997 at 17:46:46 PDT
> Thanks for the invite. I'll be there at Midnight. What room do you go to? Private? Either the Spidey or the LFS (?) one i assume...Probably the Spidey one. Rob Host = i275.driveninc.com (207.142.98.75) |
Posted by The Plaid Skull on July 15, 1997 at 22:09:25 PDT
> Either the Spidey or the LFS (?) one i assume...Probably the Spidey one. > Rob I guess I'll be there as a certain Evil Watching-type Guy! Cya
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Posted by Patriot on July 16, 1997 at 08:23:01 PDT
I had a great time in the chat room last night. Thanks to all who participated. Let's do it again soon. Sorry I had to run but I needed to be coherant at work today (yes, there are days I truly don't have to be coherant at work as well). A Patriot glad to be talking to Americans again. Host = blackhole.miti.nb.ca (198.73.125.2) |
Posted by Falcon on July 16, 1997 at 08:43:19 PDT
> I had a great time in the chat room last night. Thanks to all who participated. Let's do it again soon. Sorry I had to run but I needed to be coherant at work today (yes, there are days I truly don't have to be coherant at work as well).
Do you mean one you can get on disk? Because if you have a particular image in mind and have a scanner, you can format one yourself. Or maybe someone can e-mail the desired image. I don't know if that was the answer you were looking for. Falcon Host = mpngate1.ca.us.ibm.com (198.133.29.49) |
Posted by Patriot on July 16, 1997 at 08:58:03 PDT
> > Do you mean one you can get on disk? Because if you have a particular image in mind and have a scanner, you can format one yourself. Or maybe someone can e-mail the desired image. I don't know if that was the answer you were looking for. > Falcon I was hoping someone could send me an image or tell me where to find one on the net that's large enough to be a decent wallpaper. Patriot Host = blackhole.miti.nb.ca (198.73.125.2) |
Posted by Falcon on July 16, 1997 at 09:44:45 PDT > I was hoping someone could send me an image or tell me where to find one on the net that's large enough to be a decent wallpaper.
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Posted by Batroc on July 16, 1997 at 09:55:13 PDT
>>>As many of you know, Rob, Patriot, TJ, the Leaper, Albert Ching, and someone named Aron the Evil Watcher Host = ten1.ten.k12.tn.us (206.23.236.1) |
Posted by Dave Medinnus on July 16, 1997 at 10:23:32 PDT > The enigmatic Roscoe was a no-show as was our over worked moderator Dave Medinnus. Yep...I was asleep. I admit it... :) Let me know next time, and I'll try to make it. -DM Host = pc3.commerce.net (205.180.68.53) |
Posted by David Medinnus on July 16, 1997 at 10:29:33 PDT
"Whaddya need? What would you like?" Seriously, tho'; cover? trading card? original artwork? If I got it or can get it, I'll sacn it for you. What kind of system? What resolution on your display? -DM Host = pc3.commerce.net (205.180.68.53) |
Posted by Dave Medinnus on July 16, 1997 at 10:32:21 PDT
Just for our friend Batroc...
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Posted by Patriot on July 16, 1997 at 10:48:15 PDT
> Yep...I was asleep. I admit it... :) > Let me know next time, and I'll try to make it. > -DM Last night was great. An hour earlier would be perfect for me though. Patriot. Host = blackhole.miti.nb.ca (198.73.125.2) |
Posted by Patriot on July 16, 1997 at 10:59:19 PDT
> "Whaddya need? What would you like?" > Seriously, tho'; cover? trading card? original artwork? If I got it or can get it, I'll sacn it for you. What kind of system? What resolution on your display? > -DM My resolution is only at 640. I'd like a Garney or Lim Cap if possible (or whoever is on the front of your ss site 3). A cool pose that I can put on my computer. I've already have some sound bites from the Reb Brown TV show and Cap cartoon to play with desktop messages. Any help is appreciated. Host = blackhole.miti.nb.ca (198.73.125.2) |
Posted by Tony Stark on July 16, 1997 at 11:04:06 PDT
> > It could be worse, I could be going through what the Thor fans are. No title and the character butchered even worse by Rob L. Sure Liefeld butchered a lot of characters in HR, but Thor was mercifully spared. Because the Thor introduced in Avengers #1, ain't the real deal. He's a fake (and one worse then the Spider-Clone) who got his butt handed to him by the real Thor! Host = 207.58.96.87 (207.58.96.87) |
Posted by Batroc on July 16, 1997 at 14:33:45 PDT
> > > It could be worse, I could be going through what the Thor fans are. No title and the character butchered even worse by Rob L. Host = ten1.ten.k12.tn.us (206.23.236.1) |
Posted by AJP on July 16, 1997 at 14:45:00 PDT I don't like his costume in Heroes Reborn! I like his original. Anyone agree? Host = host-207-53-125-88.mia.bellsouth.net (207.53.125.88) |
Posted by Rob on July 16, 1997 at 15:54:57 PDT
> > Yep...I was asleep. I admit it... :) > > Let me know next time, and I'll try to make it. > > -DM > Last night was great. An hour earlier would be perfect for me though. > Patriot. That's fine by me... I won't be able to be chatting before midnite eastern on this Friday & Saturday, but every other day this week & next I can be there before midnite. Maybe we should use the LFS room, though? Any opinions? Rob Host = i275.driveninc.com (207.142.98.75) |
Posted by Falcon on July 16, 1997 at 16:06:40 PDT
I thought they were the same except for that eagle on HRCap's forhead. Falcon Host = 32.new-york-008.ny.dial-access.att.net (207.116.39.32) |
Posted by Roscoe on July 16, 1997 at 16:48:54 PDT
> >>> Cap historian Rob and I are going to try to be in the chat room tonight at 12:00 EST. We would like for you to check it out so we can get your perceptions on Cap and the fate of the universe, etc. You're interests in comics seem to be similar to ours i.e. silver age background, good back issue collection, thought you might want to join us in discussing various esoteric subjects. ooops. I was in an Avengers chat room at that time and didn't even see this message. Sorry. -Roscoe Host = wor-ma3-43.ix.netcom.com (206.217.145.107) |
Posted by Patriot on July 16, 1997 at 17:01:39 PDT
> > > Yep...I was asleep. I admit it... :) > > > Let me know next time, and I'll try to make it. > > > -DM > > Last night was great. An hour earlier would be perfect for me though. > > Patriot. > That's fine by me... I won't be able to be chatting before midnite eastern on this Friday & Saturday, but every other day this week & next I can be there before midnite. Maybe we should use the LFS room, though? Any opinions? > Rob What's the difference between chat rooms spidey, lfs, and private? Patriot. Host = fastppp415.idirect.com (207.136.98.161) |
Posted by Patriot on July 16, 1997 at 17:04:43 PDT
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Posted by Rob on July 16, 1997 at 17:28:39 PDT
> Patriot. I've no idea...I just noticed that certain people like Lizard-Man show up at the spidey board...and I felt maybe we should stay out of their space if the Spiderfans have a regular chat there or something......I've never gone into the "private" one. Rob Host = i275.driveninc.com (207.142.98.75) |
Posted by Matt on July 16, 1997 at 17:35:19 PDT
> I thought they were the same except for that eagle on HRCap's forhead. > Falcon To be overtechnical to the point of annoying, the original Cap costume's mask didn't cover his neck. (He also had that funky triangular shield) But the only differences between the classic look costume and HR was the eagle (SHIELD's logo). What I didn't like about HR Cap's look was that his arms were bigger than his head! Cheers, Matt Host = 209.36.103.137 (209.36.103.137) |
Posted by Rob on July 16, 1997 at 20:13:57 PDT
> ooops. I was in an Avengers chat room at that time and didn't even see this message. Sorry. > -Roscoe Where is an Avengers chat room?? Rob Host = i275.driveninc.com (207.142.98.75) |
Posted by Roscoe on July 16, 1997 at 22:31:40 PDT
> > -Roscoe > Where is an Avengers chat room?? > Rob Well, it's the chat room belonging to the Avengers Mailing List. I'm not sure if non-list members are supposed to be there (though I don't think it would be a problem with anyone), so I don't want to throw the location around, but details about the chat and the mailing list can be found at the site below. This is a serious mailing list; usually between 50 and 100 messages a day. -Roscoe Host = wor-ma1-20.ix.netcom.com (205.184.168.52) |
Posted by Tony Stark on July 17, 1997 at 05:16:04 PDT What I didn't like about HR Cap's look was that his arms were bigger than his head! > Cheers, > Matt You know why his arms were bigger then his head? Because Liefeld prefers brawn over brains. Host = 207.58.96.27 (207.58.96.27) |
Posted by Bubba2 on July 17, 1997 at 06:44:26 PDT > What I didn't like about HR Cap's look was that his arms were bigger than his head! > > Cheers, > > Matt > You know why his arms were bigger then his head? Because Liefeld prefers brawn over brains. There's another difference between the HR Cap costume and the regular Cap costume--in HR, Cap's shield had a mind of its own and would mysteriously switch arms without Cap's help! I don't remember it doing that when Garney drew Cap. Also, Cap himself would shrink or grow from panel to panel. At one time he is about 6 feet tall, the next he looks to be 9 feet tall. I know that's not a costume problem, but it was a different look for those of us who have been reading Cap since the early 70's! Happy Birthday, Bubba2 Host = leo-percer.baylor.edu (129.62.3.126) |
Posted by AJP on July 17, 1997 at 15:14:18 PDT
> > > I thought they were the same except for that eagle on HRCap's forhead. > > Falcon > To be overtechnical to the point of annoying, the original Cap costume's mask didn't cover his neck. (He also had that funky triangular shield) But the only differences between the classic look costume and HR was the eagle (SHIELD's logo). What I didn't like about HR Cap's look was that his arms were bigger than his head! > Cheers, > Matt Sorry about that! I didn't like the original, I liked the one he used for most of his career.(the one with the classic "A" on his head and and classic round shield. The Spectacular AJP Host = host-207-53-125-184.mia.bellsouth.net (207.53.125.184) |
Posted by Falcon on July 17, 1997 at 17:21:41 PDT What happened to this fine upstaning citizen? Falcon Host = 38.new-york-007.ny.dial-access.att.net (207.116.38.38) |
Posted by druid on July 17, 1997 at 17:50:03 PDT
> Falcon
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Posted by druid on July 17, 1997 at 17:51:16 PDT
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Posted by Patriot on July 18, 1997 at 06:40:41 PDT
I don't know if I'm touching a sore spot on the board but here goes. Just a thought during my morning coffee. Patriot. Host = blackhole.miti.nb.ca (198.73.125.2) |
Posted by Tony Stark on July 18, 1997 at 08:47:54 PDT Does Cap's armor chaft him? And don't say he wears something underneath, because in the Byrne/Stern run Baron Blood rips caps armor, revealing bare skin. Does the super-soldier prevent chafting by healing his skin or making it super tough? Host = nbre1-cs-6.dial.bright.net (207.58.96.25) |
Posted by David Medinnus on July 18, 1997 at 17:08:23 PDT > I don't know if I'm touching a sore spot on the board but here goes. Ahh, live dangerously, laddie... :) > I didn't like Jack Flagg but I have to admit that I liked Free Spirit. I'd like to see more of her. This is not a Male Chauvanistic arguement. I thought Jack was not developed at all and his costume and hair were ridiculous (please Rob, take him out of Marvel and use him in Fighting American). They took time with Free Spirit and developed her origin and her costume was not overly gaudy. I agree without qualification. > I was playing around with the idea and thought she and Nomad would make an interesting duo if they ever thawed him out. I know that Jack was frozen because Fabian didn't want anyone else writing him but Fabian is with Acclaim now and I think its time to spring Nomad out. I thought that the re-suspension of Jack was one of the larger non-HR crimes of Marvel; he has more potential as an eventual successor to Cap than anyone else in the Marvel Universe, if he comes back from the Dark Side of hero-dom. After all, who has the deeper values; one who believes, or one who believes after having questioned, examined, and fought? In interviews, Mark Waid has indicated that one of the themes from HR which he intends to explore within CA is Cap coming to the realization that there is a need for heroes; look what happened while the HR heroes were assumed dead? I'd think that finding and speaking with all of his old partners - D-Man, Jack, Sam, Cathy, and Flagg - would make a lot of sense. -DM Host = pc3.commerce.net (205.180.68.53) |
Posted by David Medinnus on July 18, 1997 at 17:10:55 PDT > Does Cap's armor chaft him? You mean the micro-link chainmail or the "Iron Cap" armor? In general, it wasn't unheard of for the chainmail to be woven with a cloth underlayer for comfort; this might be the case with Cap, and it wouldn't appear as an under-layer per se. -DM "Finally, the degree in Medieval History proves useful!!!"
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Posted by Falcon on July 18, 1997 at 17:39:37 PDT I'm assuming Cap killed in WWII. The question is, would he kill now if he absolutely had to? Falcon Host = 188.new-york-007.ny.dial-access.att.net (207.116.38.188) |
Posted by David Medinnus on July 18, 1997 at 17:58:15 PDT > I'm assuming Cap killed in WWII. The question is, would he kill now if he absolutely had to? Yep. He killed when there was no alternative when innocents where threatened by Flag-Smasher, and he destroyed Baron Blood without a second thought (although killing a vampire may not be 'killing' per se...your mileage may vary). He will kill to protect others if there is no other way, but he will also do his utmost to find an alternative. -DM Host = pc3.commerce.net (205.180.68.53) |
Posted by David Medinnus on July 18, 1997 at 18:00:11 PDT The old poll is ready, and there is a new poll question at the Star-Spangled Site. -DM Host = pc3.commerce.net (205.180.68.53) |
Posted by Patriot on July 18, 1997 at 18:59:35 PDT
> Yep. He killed when there was no alternative when innocents where threatened by Flag-Smasher, and he destroyed Baron Blood without a second thought (although killing a vampire may not be 'killing' per se...your mileage may vary). > He will kill to protect others if there is no other way, but he will also do his utmost to find an alternative. > -DM Will anyone agree with me that they made way too big a deal over the death of the Ultimatum agent. Cap killed in WW II. I saw him do it several times in Invaders. However, as soon as Cap hit the 80's, the writers made him out to be some huge boy scout instead of a soldier. I would not want to see Cap killing without just cause or being as heavy handed as Punisher or others. I liked Waid's interpretation of Cap when he had to kill the Skull and didn't spend an issue in self pity because of it. Patriot. Host = fastppp21.idirect.com (207.136.97.21) |
Posted by Roscoe on July 19, 1997 at 00:57:45 PDT
> > > Yep. He killed when there was no alternative when innocents where threatened by Flag-Smasher, and he destroyed Baron Blood without a second thought (although killing a vampire may not be 'killing' per se...your mileage may vary). > > He will kill to protect others if there is no other way, but he will also do his utmost to find an alternative. > > -DM > Will anyone agree with me that they made way too big a deal over the death of the Ultimatum agent. Cap killed in WW II. I saw him do it several times in Invaders. However, as soon as Cap hit the 80's, the writers made him out to be some huge boy scout instead of a soldier. I would not want to see Cap killing without just cause or being as heavy handed as Punisher or others. I liked Waid's interpretation of Cap when he had to kill the Skull and didn't spend an issue in self pity because of it. > Patriot. On the contrary I thought it was handled very well, and I wish Cap had spent more time ruminating over the death of the Skull. Cap is anti-killing period, which I think is borne out not only in the aforementioned storyline, but especially in Operation Galactic Storm. -Roscoe Host = wor-ma1-02.ix.netcom.com (205.184.168.34) |
Posted by Falcon on July 19, 1997 at 11:31:58 PDT
> > > Yep. He killed when there was no alternative when innocents where threatened by Flag-Smasher, and he destroyed Baron Blood without a second thought (although killing a vampire may not be 'killing' per se...your mileage may vary). > > > He will kill to protect others if there is no other way, but he will also do his utmost to find an alternative. > > > -DM > > Will anyone agree with me that they made way too big a deal over the death of the Ultimatum agent. Cap killed in WW II. I saw him do it several times in Invaders. However, as soon as Cap hit the 80's, the writers made him out to be some huge boy scout instead of a soldier. I would not want to see Cap killing without just cause or being as heavy handed as Punisher or others. I liked Waid's interpretation of Cap when he had to kill the Skull and didn't spend an issue in self pity because of it. > > Patriot. > On the contrary I thought it was handled very well, and I wish Cap had spent more time ruminating over the death of the Skull. Cap is anti-killing period, which I think is borne out not only in the aforementioned storyline, but especially in Operation Galactic Storm. > -Roscoe Was there more than one Invaders series? I'm thinking about the one in the 70s. Was there on in the 40s? Falcon Host = 54.new-york-007.ny.dial-access.att.net (207.116.38.54) |
Posted by Tony Stark on July 19, 1997 at 11:39:28 PDT
I'd have to say one of the most interesting/unique villians in comics has to be Batroc the Leaper. I mean, most villians are obsessed with destroying heroes and ruling the world, but not Georges. He's not obsesive or power hungry, he's easy to get along with, and has a very strong sense of honor. It's as if he was a super-hero who decided to go bad, but retained enough goodness not to be an out and out villian. His employees like him, heroes he goes against like him. The guy's just plain likable. You feel you can sit down and drink a few beers without anything happening to you. Host = nbre1-cs-63.dial.bright.net (207.58.96.82) |
Posted by Rob on July 19, 1997 at 11:51:17 PDT
> > > Patriot. > > On the contrary I thought it was handled very well, and I wish Cap had spent more time ruminating over the death of the Skull. Cap is anti-killing period, which I think is borne out not only in the aforementioned storyline, but especially in Operation Galactic Storm. > > -Roscoe > Was there more than one Invaders series? I'm thinking about the one in the 70s. Was there on in the 40s? > Falcon
The only Invaders series are the regular series in the 1970s and the mini-series in the early 1990s. My question is...When did Cap kill in WW2? I don't recall him doing any killing, off-hand...Maybe he killed some of those vile villains he faced in the 1940s, like the Red Skull... Rob
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Posted by Rob on July 19, 1997 at 12:02:24 PDT
Yes, but Batroc has a big ego, too...He often boasts how great he is and if you went to a bar with him, he would find some sneaky way of getting out of paying the bill. Rob Host = i275.driveninc.com (207.142.98.75) |
Posted by The Plaid Skull on July 19, 1997 at 12:35:26 PDT Man, am I lucky or what??? I deserve a prize!! Cya Whenever there is injustice, tyranny, ruthlessness...the Plaid Skull was there!!! Host = bak-ca1-16.ix.netcom.com (204.32.156.48) |
Posted by Patriot on July 19, 1997 at 13:19:55 PDT
> > > > Patriot. > > > On the contrary I thought it was handled very well, and I wish Cap had spent more time ruminating over the death of the Skull. Cap is anti-killing period, which I think is borne out not only in the afo$ 3;Cb).9 |